[Music] so in piglet you talk about talking about also how to fit baguette after birth so you've got the first crib feed under this house then you've got the we know diet and so on and you've got to stage very often I would say yeah do people are thinking about having even more face feeding after or would that be realistic and then they have at least three face feeding for weeks and eight kilos and there's no no way to improve in that face as I still some room of improvement that phase in fact two instead of two phase maybe three phase and so on to be more close to the requirement of the piglets and so on it's it's not really smart to do this horizontal cut so going from one diet toward the next to the third I'll show you some a better idea yeah evolution during the growth of the animal a little it's a afternoon I think we don't miss out for the entire reproductive cycle but they need to press plate vertic a sir need to be horizontally not vertically yeah that's some women you know what's awesome which still to improve in fact the efficacy of the sow and Piglet prediction so just to conclude if each one can give some idea I think we just forgot one way to improve your plate robustness or quality adverse we didn't talk about genetic yeah we know that the survival rate of piglets decreased when we increase the size of their litters and by genetic and we know also that we can now select cells not on the number of live of born piglets but on the number of wind pit let's move for example so this shows that genetic as a big role to play also to increase the robustness of of the piglets either at birth so our training yeah and then still because with representative of Denmark in fact is quite a high level of prediction on Netherlands and we know that in Europe we have quite a high level but are some still some countries where there is a big improvement still enforce your number of pigs of piglets wind / sales and so on and some even with the same roughly the same genetic background you still have quite a lot of influence of the different issues sometimes people are not 50 to 60 percent already compared to 2009 and since this year also zinc oxide is not allowed anymore so people have to think why is not as I wanted and then they try to solve the reason for the problem so if you have that a few years you know how of your workers is different as being is laid back and everything is already good yeah so just to conclude each of you as when work to say okay what could be the future for the piglet and the South Reserve Development question and practice so maybe I would say they'd go to the concept of two component feeding two different components each meal that are supplied to the sow so they are much much better according to the requirement crime out of sea animal during the I think that for at least for European production I think that the fishery is not trying to purge the animal to the limits and even further and further four thousand the genetic limits and and physiological limits of the animals and maybe we will have to take into consideration the litter size maybe it's not a good idea to increase always this litter size maybe it's not a good idea to try to win piglet earlier and earlier and I think that a lot of systems are developing organic systems but also also alternative systems that are more respectful of the animal and of the physiological limits of the animals and I think that this is a probably as a future for European productions thank you Andy what we have to use so some farmers they like biological ecological system they pay more for it and it can be part of the market so we invest maybe in in higher survivability more of square meters and more welfare but there's also markets it doesn't want to pay for it it's just an economical Bullock protection so for this type of farm would maybe have a different type of management I think to do that what the market wants the genetic interaction different genetics require a different feeling are you working with less than two British or not I was the efficient pressure so that the market is in a matrix let's say depending on what the market wants but you have to know how to get there that's why we need research of course but the market yeah and maybe we can think that in the future the evolution would be the same in fact all we are going to have the same type of evolution for different countries it's like the antibiotic rose promoters in fact the ban is spreading over the world and so on so today I'm sure that more and more people will be concerned by the pitted welfare by the piglet quality boys so much mods and so on so I would like to thank all of you for your contribution to this little debate today and we are excited to listen to the presentation this afternoon of Beethoven and LD thank you very much [Music]