[Music] well that's a dream and that's a dream but you know in nature organisms are never living isolated they are living like us in populations with good ones bad ones very efficient ones less efficient others and so on so in fact if we are able to determine the best formula the best mix then it must be very very efficient because for example bacteria are everywhere in the world they are everywhere in your body on your body on your surface of your body everywhere but another issue is that if we manipulate this organism that can be frightening you know many people are afraid for example of GMOs the difference in what we are doing in industrial biotechnology is that we don't release this organism in the nature we use such modified organisms in a bioreactor which is a contained system and when they have operated the production of a compound of interest they are destroyed by heating so they are killed so there is no risk of dissemination of such organisms convinced is not the right well I think because if you say well I'm a scientist I know what I say and you don't understand anything you aren't dead you know the the problem is to give more explanations and to ask more questions I think that in the case of genetically modified plants in GMOs the problem is that some companies have tried to go very fast without saying what they were doing and people don't like this particularly in Europe or in France again more but in other countries people are not concerned by that so it's very different in our case of Europe and no friends I think that the only issue is to ask as many questions as possible on the meaning of what we are doing you know in our case since the very beginning of twb we have associated an external view to the science and the technological approach and Excel the best external view the best people to raise questions are philosophers and sociologists so since the very beginning we have one embedded philosopher in the lab asking questions about our projects what's the mineral projects what the target where is the added value and if there is any risk then we stop you know if we want to spare the planet and to make it a greeter again we need to use renewable resources that's the only way the problem the problem is the economy even if you are very highly motivated you know to preserve the Earth from the climate change you will not agree to pay your products any products food shampoos anything the double of the triple price I don't believe your motivation will be high enough you know so when you have to compare compounds which are produced at a low price by chemistry and produced by a higher price from renewable resources hey it doesn't work you know people don't want they want to preserve the planet but they don't want to pay too much [Music]